Switching Between Form 1 and Form 8

[M_Mudassir_Saeed]

Asslamo Aleikum,

We all know that Original Masdar and Al-Masdar Al-Moawwal can be inter-changed with each other as and when required in different circumstances.

Following are example sentences from page 18 in Book 2/3 handouts.

First Sentence using Original Masdar: اريد الخروج
Second Sentence using Al-Masdar Al-Moawwal: اريد ان أَخْرُج

Please note, in first sentence الخروج is from base verb خرج of FORM 1.
And in second sentence, mudari-mansub أَخْرُج is also from same verb خرج of FORM 1.

Now please consider - Book 3 - Lesson 5 - Page 50 - Line 1
Origianal Masdar being used there فعال) شراء) is from base verb شرى which is FORM 1.

When changing the above Original Masdar to Al-Masdar-Al-Moawwal - then why don't we use mudari-mansub of FORM 1 (i.e. أَشْرِيَ) and why we bring of FORM 8 أَشْتَرِيَ as done by Brother Asif (May Allah bless him) in MAV_BK3_DVD04_PARTB2 at 42:00?

[M_Mudassir_Saeed]

I'm still searching, if anyone come across an answer, please do share!

[amir2005i]

السلام عليكم

First up, i am not knowledgeable. I just looked up in the places where i could find something and here is what i found. I suggest you study them yourself before coming to a conclusion:

The Hans Wehr Dictionary says:

شرى = to sell; to buy (s.th.)
اشترى = to buy; to sell (s.th.)

and

اشتراء = شراء = purchase, buy(ing)

بارك الله فيك

[M_Mudassir_Saeed]

Wa Salaam Brother,

Many thanks for reply, information from any source is not always reliable unless a Muslim Scholar is in charge there, hence it's not allowed to share links, so you may please wish to remove the links.

Perhaps I should have mentioned earlier that I consulted Hans Wehr Dictionary before initiating the thread and found meanings for both forms same.

So I developed a perception that when meanings are same in two forms then we have option to switch, but thought to discuss.

[irf2k]

Assalamu Alaykum
Please see detail answer by Dr. Abdur Rahim regarding this question.
http://www.lqtoronto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153
Wassalaam