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Old 04-25-2012, 10:29 PM
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As salamu alaikum,
Can someone analyse this sentence from madina book 2 handout page 19.
Ma'ŕ man tureedu an talŕba?-with who do you want to play?

I'll give it a try:
Verbal sentence
Ma'á: zarf makan mudaf
Man: ismu istifham, ism majroor
Ma'á man: mutalliq bil feel
Tureedu: feel, fa'il mezoof takdeeru anta
An talába: masdar muawwal fi mahalli nasb mafool bihi

Is it possible to reconstruct this sentence and say:
Tureedu an talába ma'ŕ man

If not why?

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Old 04-26-2012, 09:57 AM
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Salâmou'aleikoum wa rahmatoullâh wa barakâtouh,


Some precisions:

Quote:
Man: ismu istifham, ism majroor muDâd ilaihi

Quote:
Ma'á man: mutalliq bil feel
I haven't studied yet and deeply the notion of ta3liq, so I'm not sure which of the 2 analysises below is correct:
(1) ma3a : muta3lliq bil fi3l, or
(2) ma3a man: muta3lliq bil fi3l (as your wrote)

I would personally say that the option (1) is correct (that is, only the Dharf is muta3alliq bil fi3l). I can give your more detail for the whys, but as we haven't studied this in Medina book with Usted Assif, I won't. Anyway, if Usted Assif did not mention this part of the analysis, it's because it does not matter in our stage of learning.

Otherwise, the i3râb is correct .

As for:

Quote:
Is it possible to reconstruct this sentence and say:
Tureedu an talába ma'ŕ man

If not why?

No, it is not permissible.
Indeed, the thing asked (المسؤول عنه) has to start the sentence in an interrogative form (as we have been taught in book 2).

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Old 04-26-2012, 12:58 PM
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