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Old 08-04-2012, 11:41 PM
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Assalamualaikum,
I missed Br Asif's explanation of the word Ayyu
What word is أَيُّ , is it harf?,
is ayyu always mudhaf?
so the word coming after ayyu is always muthaf ilaihi?
Is the muthaf ilaihi coming after ayyu always tanween kasrah?


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Old 08-05-2012, 01:21 AM
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wa alaikumussalaam.
Ayyun is a noun meaning "which". And it mostly comes as a mudaaf. In madina books we have learned its mudaaf form.
If you missed the explanation then you can find it here at 45m25s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5u-RcwksMA&t=45m25s
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:12 AM
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thank you br.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:42 AM
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'aleikoum salām wa rahmatoullāh wa barakātouh,

following brother hassan's post, I just wanted to add some comments or things that may be relevant and good to know
about أَيّ .

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What word is أَيُّ , is it harf?
أَيّ is an اِسم . It is more preciselly an اِسم استفهام. As it falls into the category of اِسم , one must automatically wonder whether it is mu'rab or mabni: indeed, we know that the asmā are of two kinds, mu'rab or mabni.

Among all the asmā al-istifhām أَيّ is the only one which is mu'rab, all the rest is mabni.
For instance we have:

أَيُّ يَوْمٍ هَذَا ؟ (مبتدأ مرفوع)ء
أَيَّ كتابِ تَقْرَأُ ؟ (مفعول به منصوب)ء
في أَيِّ كتابِ كتبتَ الدرس ؟ (اسم مجرور)ء


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is ayyu always mudhaf?
so the word coming after ayyu is always muthaf ilaihi?
That's at least how we've studied it.
By the way, you probably did not noticed an important point regarding the idāfa (annexation):
only nouns are concerned by the Idāfa. I mean: knowing that أَيّ comes as mudāf, then one must know that it is necessarily and by deduction an Ism (a harf or a fi'l cannot be mudāf or mudāf ilaihi). The idāfa is a "properity" that only concerns nouns, as much as tanween only concern nouns.
From that, we can dervied a general rule:
any word that can be mudāf or mudāf ilaihi is necessarily an Ism.


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Is the muthaf ilaihi coming after ayyu always tanween kasrah?
Your question is a bite ambiguous.
If you meant: "Is mudāf ilaihi coming after ayyu always majrour or in a place of a ism majrour ?", the answer is YES
If you meant: "Is mudāf ilaihi coming after ayyu always majrour WITH KASRA ?", the answer is NO
If you meant: "Is mudāf ilaihi coming after ayyu always WITH TANWEEN?", the answer is NO

Hope this give us more insight regarding about أَيّ .
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:57 AM
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أَيُّ يَوْمٍ هَذَا ؟ (مبتدأ مرفوع)ء
isn't 'ayyu' khabar in this sentence? i don't see how 'hadha' could be khabar..
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:05 AM
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Asslamu alaikum
It is khabar.
Wassalaam
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