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Old 02-20-2012, 09:26 PM
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on page 83 in musifu fi lught wa iraabi surah yusuf it mentions about dameer sha'n so what is dameer sha'n
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:15 AM
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I hope knowledgeable members of this forum will help you in detail. I can only refer you page 128 of the "Glossary..." book, which defines Dameeru Sha'nin with an example.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:26 PM
Abdullah Al-Narwej Abdullah Al-Narwej is offline
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al salaamu 'aleykum wrwb.

From 'Both these Lights Emanate from the same Niche' by Dr. V. Abdur Raheem

(This is me roughly typing a segment from p.49-50, please excuse my transliteration)

innahu qad Dawaa..
The pronoun 'h' in 'innahu' is the damir al-sha'n.
Unlike the normal pronoun, the damir al-sha'n does not refer to a noun previously mentioned,
but to an idea that follows. It is like the pronoun 'it' in the English expression,
'It is a joy to hear him speak'. It does not refer anything mentioned before. But it refers to 'to hear him speak'.

Here is another example in Arabic:

Lam ashtari dhaaka al-mu3ajama liannahu lam yakun ladayya mablaghun kaafin 3indamaa ra'aytuhu fee al-ma3raDi
'I did not buy that dictionary as I did not have enough money when I saw it in the book fair'

Example from Qur'aan: (12:87)

Note that if the damir al-sha'n is omitted, inna or anna, is followed by a sentence, which is not permissible.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:12 PM
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Note that if the damir al-sha'n is omitted, inna or anna, is followed by a sentence, which is not permissible.
Brother can you please elaborate on this ? Why is it not permissible for a sentence to follow Inna or Anna? In the Quran we see [73:19]

إِنَّ هَـٰذِهِ تَذْكِرَةٌ

Looks to me, here Inna is followed by a complete sentence "hadhihi tadhkiratun".

Note: I took the Quranic example from page 1 of the LQToronto Handout for book 2.
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Old 03-28-2012, 07:24 PM
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Brother can you please elaborate on this ? Why is it not permissible for a sentence to follow Inna or Anna? In the Quran we see [73:19]

إِنَّ هَـٰذِهِ تَذْكِرَةٌ

Looks to me, here Inna is followed by a complete sentence "hadhihi tadhkiratun".

Note: I took the Quranic example from page 1 of the LQToronto Handout for book 2.
From my own limited understanding/interpretation of what dr. v wrote:
In this ayah inna has ism inna & khabar inna

But if you were to put a verbal sentence for instance "innahaa laysat mushkilatan" then if you were to remove the dameer 'haa', then you would see that it's not possible; what would the ism inna be & what would the khabar inna be?

hope this helps
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Old 03-28-2012, 07:50 PM
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Thanks brother.
 

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