simple negations with ما and لَيْسَ

[aashifrashad]

Do both these negations mean Exactly the same???
to say,
"I do not have brothers"

لَسْتُ لِيْ إِخْوَةٌ



مَا لِيْ إِخْوَةٌ

[mohanedshaikh]

noo brother. to d best of mi ilm ?? is used to negate fial maadhi and ??? (to negate possession) it cannot be used with ?? : in this case laysa is more correct and second sent with ?? is grammatically incorrect. please correct me if m wrong.

[irf2k]

Originally Posted by mohanedshaikh

noo brother. to d best of mi ilm ?? is used to negate fial maadhi and ??? (to negate possession) it cannot be used with ?? : in this case laysa is more correct and second sent with ?? is grammatically incorrect. please correct me if m wrong.

No brother. It is the same thing.
This 'ma' is called 'ma alhijaziah' it works just like 'laissa'.
I'm not at home, so I can't give you the lesson number where it is explained.

[mohanedshaikh]

..oops! may Allah forgive mee. but dis concept is new to mee .. please provide me with the lesson no. as wen u can. jzakAllahu w khairr

[irf2k]

Originally Posted by mohanedshaikh

..oops! may Allah forgive mee. but dis concept is new to mee .. please provide me with the lesson no. as wen u can. jzakAllahu w khairr

See Book 3 Lesson 4.

[Tanweer]

Originally Posted by mohanedshaikh

..oops! may Allah forgive mee. but dis concept is new to mee ..

You must have already seen such examples in Book 1.

For example: Book 1, Page 58, exercise 6 (Iqra), sentence number 2 :

أَلَكَ أَخٌ ؟ لاَ, مَا لِيْ أَخٌ.

So, what brother aashifrashad wrote in the second sentence was correct. His first sentence was wrong as brother irf2k pointed out.

[mohanedshaikh]

may Allah increase u all in ilm and forgive me my errors and guide us unto straight path jzakAllah

[irf2k]

Originally Posted by aashifrashad

Do both these negations mean Exactly the same???
to say,
"I do not have brothers"

لَسْتُ لِيْ إِخْوَةٌ



مَا لِيْ إِخْوَةٌ

I did not notice what you have is 'I am not with me brothers'. It should be
لَيْسَ لِيْ إِخْوَةٌ